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Postby mfwing82 on Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:00 pm

I have a trditions deerhunter 50 cal. flintlock I am looking for a wood stock for it . anyone have one or know where I can get one?


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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Lance Coleman on Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:02 pm

Notta clue........ But I managed to come upon a traditions deer hunter WITH a woodstock a week or so back that was in desperate need of a makeover.

Are those short lil stocks not about the most hiudeous things ya ever laid eyes on?? Geesh even in wood they look like somebody said "OOP! I'll just chop that part off."

I'm just going to make a whole nother stock for mine.
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Captchee on Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:42 pm

right now there isnt really anthing you can do but have someone make a new stock or make one yourself .
currently im working on a duplicator . as soon as i get it up and running , ill be offering replacment stocks bot in stock production shapes and custom lines for CVA traditions and posably TC through my shop .
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby mfwing82 on Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:03 pm

Sounds great captchee


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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby mfwing82 on Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:55 am

any ideas ??


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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Captchee on Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:44 am

not concerning production stocks .
Hand made custom stocks , i can make you one . thas not an issue .
what is an issue is the cost . which depends on what you want .
here is my wifes deer hunter
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the parts also fit into the CVA bobcat and youth hunter stalks
here are a couple of those i have done

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when it comes to custom , really you can do or have what ever you want .
but untell i have a duplicator set up , i can only do these 100% by hand . so basicly your looking at 200+ depending on the options you want
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby mfwing82 on Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:20 pm

captchee that is some beautiful work. I just spoke to traditions yesterday and they did take an order for a kit stock for $41 .(30 to 60 days) I plan on letting my 16 year old finish the stock. I will let him see your work . I have built furniture and houses but never a gun stock as that is more artwork.
I attend a gunmakers fair in july and am hoping to be able to get some info and maybe even a blank to make a custom stock for my TC renegade
Traditions did want $225 for a finished stock so your offer would seem to be a huge discount for a piece of art work as opposed to a manufactured stock.


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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Captchee on Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:44 pm

225 for a finish stock for you deerhunter ??? HOLY!!!!
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Linc on Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:34 am

:o You can get the whole darned gun for that price!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Captchee on Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:06 pm

Linc wrote::o You can get the whole darned gun for that price!!!!!!!!!!!!!


yep thats what i was thinking . also that stock will be a factory stock , nothing special , very close to the synthetic one is shape .
this however is the way of it with production companies .
if you want i eye opener . take a look at the cost of building say a cabelas blue ridge from parts .
total cost of all the parts alone is 3 xs what the gun sells for new .
i can custom buld a complete basic long rifle with better ,stock wood ,barrel, lock , trigger and hardware for what pedersoli wants for the replacment cost
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby hanshi on Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:02 pm

Captchee, I have a Traditions Deer Hunter, too. Your stock work is magnificent and makes these little guns look custom. When you get your stock duplicator please announce it loud and long, here, as i would like to replace my stock with your work.

I'm currently building a CVA Hawken using the basic CVA stock. Don't think it'll look anywhere near that good, though.
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Captchee on Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:23 am

well currently my duplicator is about 1/2 finished .
but Im only able to work on it in starts as i also have custom gun orders to fill so it may be another month or two before i have it up and running with patterns .
but ill be sure and let folks know

right now , all im able to do is hand done stocks which finished run 2 times what i would be able to do on the duplicator.
But also that’s for a finished stock .
My hope is that with the duplicator , I can provide unfinished as well as finished stock s for some of the production lines out there which to now have limited availability and in most cases very high costs for what is provided
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby mfwing82 on Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:55 pm

Well, lets get that other half done. I am sure the folks here are all waiting .


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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Captchee on Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:02 pm

mfwing82 wrote:Well, lets get that other half done. I am sure the folks here are all waiting .

:D i got to fullfuill prior obligations before i can take on more LOL . ill get her done soon lol
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby mfwing82 on Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:01 pm

well finally got a kit stock from traditions $46 not bad(was ordered in late april). my son has sanded it down and applied some boiled linseed oil. He thought that that was the color stock he wanted but that was not the case so he applied more oil,mineral spirits and a small amount of early american stain and coated stock 2 or 3 times wanting to change it up a little more he added a little mahogany to existing mixture coated two more times. now he is satisfied with the color he wet the stock down with just linseed oil and is waiting for this to dry. we figure maybe 1 more linseed oil wetting go over it with steelwool and then coat with tung oil see what happens . so far all looks good


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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Bounty Hunter on Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:22 am

I just saw this. I have a Deerhunter Flintlock which is a bit of a project I'm going to start working on. I would be really interested in a nice wood stock for it, but have never messed with making a stock. If I could get my hands on one it would be great. Please let me know, thanks!
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Captchee on Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:33 am

i will be sure to announce when the time comes .
In the main time here is a tutorial I did on restocking a CVA bobcat
http://www.tradrag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2377

I just have a couple rails to do and I should be ready to try a patern on my duplicator .
All summer its just been one thing after another and I havent had time to really do all that much work on it .
Just seems to have been one thing after another all year long .
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Bounty Hunter on Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:55 am

Thanks that is a great tutorial but a lot more than I have time to undertake currently.
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby hanshi on Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:36 pm

Captchee, talk about making a silk purse out of a pig's ear! :77:
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby LadyHawk on Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:55 am

Capt- you should put them on ebay when you get them made. People pay crazy amounts for ugly wood stocks that claim to fit a Bobcat barrel.
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby hanshi on Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:12 pm

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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Captchee on Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:59 pm

you , Know ladyhawk , i feel kinda bad because i keep telling people that as soon as i get my duplicator up . ill have stocks available .
but then something always comes along that has to get done first .
i actually only have alittle bit left to finish . a couple slide rails and some set screws . then trim down the towers .
then i should be able to stop dong them by hand .
once that happens then i plan on having stock to replace the 2 piece CVA and traditions stock .
stocks for the bobcat , Youth hunters , deer hunters ..........

the thing that really gets me is when i read how much traditions wants for their finished stocks .
im doing hand made custom stocks for very close to that now.
i have never done one where someone has ask me to duplicate the synthetic stock in wood
If you take the walnut stock in the bobcat above this is basically my cost before anything

Butt plate =10.00
Trigger guard = 10.00
Side plate = 5.00
Wood 45.00
That comes to a base cost of 70.00. Not including shipping charges
And that’s IF I buy the parts and not do my own castings which takes even more time
That doesn’t include shaping inletting , inlays , checkering ………

What I was doing when I had a stockpile of the bobcats was charging is 350.00 + shipping for the complete rifle with a custom stock .
So the stocks were running around 225.00 finished
In hoping with my duplicator I can knock that down to 150 to 175 for a complete custom stock finished without checkering and such

or around 100.00 for just a pre carve of the factory stock but done in maple or walnut or such that the customer has to do the final inletting and finish on .
But I got to get my duplicator up and running first so I can see just how much savings I will actually have and how much intrest there actualy is
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby LadyHawk on Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:58 pm

Well maybe if your roof did not fall in, you could get some work done :D
Just kidding! I bet you get more than a few calls on the stocks. Not too many people are big fans on the original CVA and Traditions stocks wood or syn.
Happy New Year Capt! Thanks for all your help with all my questions this year.
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Captchee on Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:27 am

LadyHawk wrote:Well maybe if your roof did not fall in, you could get some work done :D
Just kidding! I bet you get more than a few calls on the stocks. Not too many people are big fans on the original CVA and Traditions stocks wood or syn.
Happy New Year Capt! Thanks for all your help with all my questions this year.


happy new year to you .

sometimes life decides to make things interesting doesn’t it :campfire:
As of right now , it seems my insurance is going to cover the work . So that’s a plus .

Lady hawk , which model of CVA bobcat do you have ?
Could you post a photo of your gun so I can see the lock clearly
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Captchee on Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:16 pm

ok well today i tried a blank on the duplicator i been working on .
as of right now , i have a whole lot of work to do before it will produce anything reasonable enough to sell .
it works but not good enough to be even close to reasonable
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby LadyHawk on Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:02 am

Here it is. I did not know that CVA had different Bobcats.
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Captchee on Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:03 pm

LadyHawk wrote:Here it is. I did not know that CVA had different Bobcats.


yep , some have a small Maslin lock like on the deer hunter in the photos of the rifles above
also there was a special addition which carried double set triggers . they also gold leafed the writing on the barrel
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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby bdog on Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:43 pm

Captchee wrote:not concerning production stocks .
Hand made custom stocks , i can make you one . thas not an issue .
what is an issue is the cost . which depends on what you want .
here is my wifes deer hunter
Image

the parts also fit into the CVA bobcat and youth hunter stalks
here are a couple of those i have done

Image

Image

when it comes to custom , really you can do or have what ever you want .
but untell i have a duplicator set up , i can only do these 100% by hand . so basicly your looking at 200+ depending on the options you want



Captchee,I like that stock on your wifes deer hunter,now if I wanted a stock made,do you have to have the complete gun there or can you just make the stock,I have a CVA Kentucky full wood 2 piece stock,I hope all my questions I'm asking are not bothering you.....thanks again Mark(bdog)


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Re: traditions deerhunter wood stock

Postby Captchee on Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:56 pm

dont worry Bdog your not bothering me any .
i prefer to have the rifle in hand when making a custom stock . That way I can make sure everything fits and fits correctly .
Also I can then insure the balance is correct
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